"The big reveal" på fredag 1 juni - Sidan 2 - Svenska 3D-Tåg

Mazz · 2018-06-26, 17:27

Bästa postningen från DTG på länge tror jag...

Förhoppningsnivån hos mig steg just med 5 punkter...

Tack jorgen3

jorgen3 · 2018-06-26, 18:46

Jag håller med. Jag trodde nästan TSW var döende, men detta är otroliga nyheter.
De håller på med editorer som släpps troligen snart (Höst) och att de börjar få till fysiken på loken som var varit riktigt bedrövligt.
Sedan om något år kanske så finns multiplayer på plats

Så nu tror jag på en väldig ljus framtid för TSW

Mazz · 2018-06-27, 19:55

Citat från denna tråd:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/53007...0517058/?ctp=3

DTG_Luke [utvecklare] 2 timmar sedan
Ursprungligen skrivet av MugHug:
Yet there still seems to be much confusion in the community as to what is happening and when.

Why?

And personally I think DTG needs to self-reflect in that aspect as they control the degree and effort of communcation and the customers can only react to it.

In respect to Discord, it seems that it should not be required that everyone needs to use Discord just to hear the latest and greatest titbit from a DTG representative. But the impression seems to be the case. The forum should be sufficient and is quite capable to communication anything desired.

By the way, Hi. I'm Luke, Dovetail's new trains community manager.

I agree, in the past, communications levels between Dovetail and it's community has been poor. As the new community manager it's my mission to turn this around and get everyone informed on all the latest official info from DTG, rather than everyone having to rely on tidbits spread through Discord or word of mouth from other community members.
I have already made a couple of changes and have set myself into a more permanent presence on these forums. Further changes will take a little more time as this is just my second week, but all I can say on that is watch this space.

Även detta känns positivt. Förhoppningsnivån ytterligare 2 punkter upp...

Mazz · 2018-07-10, 15:34

Idag, för några timmar sedan:

DTG_Luke [utvecklare] 3 timmar sedan
We have not abandoned the tools. We have also started them, they're coming along quite well.

As has been previously stated, we could have just released the standard UE4 editor like certain other developers have, but this would have been a bad move for us and our intentions to get third parties creating add-ons.
The UE4 tools are professional development tools. They are not beginner friendly and not very user intuitive and have a very steep learning curve.
Dovetail took a lot of flak over the years on how complicated the Train Simulator 20xx tools were. If you thought they were hard to use, they weren't a patch on the EU4 editor.

We are taking the time to get our tools right. We have heavilly modified them to make them easier to use, and added loads of features to accomodate the new things we've added to the Unreal engine. Once they're out, you'll be able to create new routes, new locos, new wagons, scenic assets, new scenarios for existing routes... everything a third party developer would need to create Add-Ons.

But we can't do all this in a rush... It takes time. But they are coming.

**********
lite senare:

DTG_Luke [utvecklare] 2 timmar sedan
Ursprungligen skrivet av Kestrel:
Apparently, no one can take a joke. But, thanks for the standard "it's in the works" response. I know you have to make things easy now that this a console based game.

Believe me, as a very very long time mod maker (spanning back some 16 years) before joining DTG, I really really wish I can give far more than a "standard we're working on it" response. But for many reasons including legal reasons I cannot simply show the tools off right now. As much as I really want to.

Edit= also, when are people finally going to drop the "it's being dumbed down for consoles" cliché? The game is not being dumbed down for consoles and consoles are NOT the reason that recent routes have been shorter than we'd like. The latter is simply down to time, not hardware limitations.

Väldigt bra vibbar tycker jag. *förhoppningsfull*

Klipp-o-klist från:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/53007...1877522817743/

Bilder är väl aldrig fel?

ADDE · 2018-07-10, 20:25

Hoppas!

men det vore kul om man kunde få fram en importverktyg så utvecklare kunde utveckla direkt mot unreal-motorn och immportera. Inte bara genom DTGs verktyg.

Mazz · 2018-07-11, 00:14

Citat:

Ursprungligen postat av ADDE

Hoppas!

men det vore kul om man kunde få fram en importverktyg så utvecklare kunde utveckla direkt mot unreal-motorn och immportera. Inte bara genom DTGs verktyg.

Det är säkert jättebra om dom gjorde det. Kan du utveckla, vad skulle det vara för fördelar att utveckla direkt mot UE4-motorn?

ADDE · 2018-07-11, 20:50

Citat:

Ursprungligen postat av Mazz

Det är säkert jättebra om dom gjorde det. Kan du utveckla, vad skulle det vara för fördelar att utveckla direkt mot UE4-motorn?

vist är det nog svårt för en otränad att utveckla direkt mot UE4-motorn. men man får en frihet att göra precis vad man vill och köra det mot spelet utan DTGs begränsningar och avsaknad av egenskaper. Det som begränsas då är i princip vad spelet faktiskt klarar av att utföra. Men DTG vill väl bestämma vad som får göras och inte göras med sin kära tågsimulator...

Mazz · 2018-07-11, 21:36

Citat:

Ursprungligen postat av ADDE

vist är det nog svårt för en otränad att utveckla direkt mot UE4-motorn. men man får en frihet att göra precis vad man vill och köra det mot spelet utan DTGs begränsningar och avsaknad av egenskaper. Det som begränsas då är i princip vad spelet faktiskt klarar av att utföra. Men DTG vill väl bestämma vad som får göras och inte göras med sin kära tågsimulator...

Säkert sant det du säger, men den utvecklingen du vill ha kommer ju obönhörligen begränsa sig till statiska objekt och naturen, allt annat har ju med DTG:s applikation tågsimulator att göra.

Resonemanget blir ju dock lite spekulativt eftersom vi inte sett något av DTG:s editor än. Ville dock förstå lite vad tänkte på.

2018-06-26, 17:27	#16
Mazz Hedersmedlem Reg.datum: Sep 2001 Ort: Vendelsö Inlägg: 4 500	Bästa postningen från DTG på länge tror jag... Förhoppningsnivån hos mig steg just med 5 punkter... Tack jorgen3 __________________ /Mazz www.banbyggarna.se ... ... ... www.nbvj.se

2018-06-26, 18:46	#17
jorgen3 Medlem Reg.datum: Mar 2007 Ort: sundsvall Inlägg: 524	Jag håller med. Jag trodde nästan TSW var döende, men detta är otroliga nyheter. De håller på med editorer som släpps troligen snart (Höst) och att de börjar få till fysiken på loken som var varit riktigt bedrövligt. Sedan om något år kanske så finns multiplayer på plats Så nu tror jag på en väldig ljus framtid för TSW Senast redigerad av jorgen3 den 2018-06-26 klockan 22:07.

2018-06-27, 19:55	#18
Mazz Hedersmedlem Reg.datum: Sep 2001 Ort: Vendelsö Inlägg: 4 500	Citat från denna tråd: https://steamcommunity.com/app/53007...0517058/?ctp=3 DTG_Luke [utvecklare] 2 timmar sedan Ursprungligen skrivet av MugHug: Yet there still seems to be much confusion in the community as to what is happening and when. Why? And personally I think DTG needs to self-reflect in that aspect as they control the degree and effort of communcation and the customers can only react to it. In respect to Discord, it seems that it should not be required that everyone needs to use Discord just to hear the latest and greatest titbit from a DTG representative. But the impression seems to be the case. The forum should be sufficient and is quite capable to communication anything desired. By the way, Hi. I'm Luke, Dovetail's new trains community manager. I agree, in the past, communications levels between Dovetail and it's community has been poor. As the new community manager it's my mission to turn this around and get everyone informed on all the latest official info from DTG, rather than everyone having to rely on tidbits spread through Discord or word of mouth from other community members. I have already made a couple of changes and have set myself into a more permanent presence on these forums. Further changes will take a little more time as this is just my second week, but all I can say on that is watch this space. Även detta känns positivt. Förhoppningsnivån ytterligare 2 punkter upp... __________________ /Mazz www.banbyggarna.se ... ... ... www.nbvj.se

2018-07-10, 15:34	#19
Mazz Hedersmedlem Reg.datum: Sep 2001 Ort: Vendelsö Inlägg: 4 500	Idag, för några timmar sedan: DTG_Luke [utvecklare] 3 timmar sedan We have not abandoned the tools. We have also started them, they're coming along quite well. As has been previously stated, we could have just released the standard UE4 editor like certain other developers have, but this would have been a bad move for us and our intentions to get third parties creating add-ons. The UE4 tools are professional development tools. They are not beginner friendly and not very user intuitive and have a very steep learning curve. Dovetail took a lot of flak over the years on how complicated the Train Simulator 20xx tools were. If you thought they were hard to use, they weren't a patch on the EU4 editor. We are taking the time to get our tools right. We have heavilly modified them to make them easier to use, and added loads of features to accomodate the new things we've added to the Unreal engine. Once they're out, you'll be able to create new routes, new locos, new wagons, scenic assets, new scenarios for existing routes... everything a third party developer would need to create Add-Ons. But we can't do all this in a rush... It takes time. But they are coming. ********** lite senare: DTG_Luke [utvecklare] 2 timmar sedan Ursprungligen skrivet av Kestrel: Apparently, no one can take a joke. But, thanks for the standard "it's in the works" response. I know you have to make things easy now that this a console based game. Believe me, as a very very long time mod maker (spanning back some 16 years) before joining DTG, I really really wish I can give far more than a "standard we're working on it" response. But for many reasons including legal reasons I cannot simply show the tools off right now. As much as I really want to. Edit= also, when are people finally going to drop the "it's being dumbed down for consoles" cliché? The game is not being dumbed down for consoles and consoles are NOT the reason that recent routes have been shorter than we'd like. The latter is simply down to time, not hardware limitations. Väldigt bra vibbar tycker jag. förhoppningsfull Klipp-o-klist från: https://steamcommunity.com/app/53007...1877522817743/ Bilder är väl aldrig fel? __________________ /Mazz www.banbyggarna.se ... ... ... www.nbvj.se Senast redigerad av Mazz den 2018-07-11 klockan 01:34.

2018-07-10, 20:25	#20
ADDE Medlem Reg.datum: Feb 2012 Ort: Södermalm Inlägg: 1 366	Hoppas! men det vore kul om man kunde få fram en importverktyg så utvecklare kunde utveckla direkt mot unreal-motorn och immportera. Inte bara genom DTGs verktyg. __________________ Mvh SummerADDE Alla mina projekt till Train Simulator Classic är nedlagda. Jag kommer härmed fokusera på att skapa rutter och innehåll till Train Sim World i fortsättningen. Alla mina downloads på Google Drive kommer att tas bort permament den 31:a agusuti 2024.